Navigating the Crypto Frontier: Insights from Anndy Lian at Bitcoin Asia 2025

Navigating the Crypto Frontier: Insights from Anndy Lian at Bitcoin Asia 2025

During the Bitcoin Asia 2025 conference in Hong Kong, hosted by Bitcoin Conference Asia, Lian sat down with Chinsanity on The Chinsanity Show, powered by 852 Web 3. The conversation delved into Bitcoin policy, market dynamics, institutional influences, and bold forecasts for the year ahead. This article captures the essence of their discussion, highlighting key takeaways for enthusiasts and investors alike.

Bitcoin Policy: Asia’s Cautious and Promising Path

The interview began with Lian reflecting on his recent panel discussion at the conference, which centered on Bitcoin policy and governmental adoption. He contrasted the swift policy shifts in the United States, fueled by a change in administration under figures like Donald Trump, with Asia’s more measured approach. “In the US, it seemed sudden from a media standpoint,” Lian noted. “Suddenly, they love Bitcoin, thanks to Trump and the frameworks built beforehand.”
In Asia, the landscape is diverse and evolving. Lian praised Hong Kong for its transformation from skepticism toward digital currencies to a bullish, pro-crypto stance. “Hong Kong is doing a good job,” he said, pointing out how regulators are actively promoting the region as a hub: “Hey, come to Hong Kong and do business.” Other nations are following suit. Pakistan, Bhutan, and the Philippines have introduced supportive Bitcoin policies, focusing on sustainable frameworks rather than immediate reserves. “They’re trying their best to create more supportive environments,” Lian explained. He acknowledged that countries like Singapore, Malaysia, and Thailand lag behind, but he expressed optimism about their efforts.
This regional push aligns with broader market positivity. With Bitcoin prices soaring and institutions injecting capital, Lian sees a “win-win” scenario. “The energy is perfect right now,” he emphasized, crediting the bullish market for accelerating policy adoption. Still, he cautioned that Asia is still catching up to the US’s aggressive pace, underscoring the need for balanced, long-term strategies.
Conference Vibes: Mining, Learning, and Community Spirit
Bitcoin Asia 2025 buzzed with energy, a stark contrast to some past events where attendance waned. Lian described the atmosphere as vibrant, filled with “Bitcoin whales” and mining enthusiasts. “I saw a few of my friends, many are Bitcoin whales here to look at mining,” he shared. The focus on mining isn’t surprising, given Asia’s historical dominance in the sector, particularly among Chinese communities despite domestic bans.
Lian expressed concerns about mining’s future sustainability. “A huge part of the mining power still belongs to Chinese people or those living abroad,” he said. However, with rising energy costs and fluctuating Bitcoin prices, he warned that the industry could face challenges. “If the price doesn’t catch up, many miners might say goodbye, it’s not sustainable.” He likened it to a “sunsetting industry” for newcomers, though established players like those in Bhutan have built resilient models by planning for the long haul.
What stood out most was the audience’s engagement. Unlike conferences where stages feel empty, Bitcoin Asia had packed halls with attendees taking notes, filming, and actively participating. “They want to learn,” Lian observed. “The mining industry in Asia is mature; they’ve been doing it for a long time, and electricity here isn’t too expensive.” He attributed this to a desire for new trends and re-education, with bloggers and influencers using the event to engage their followers. “It’s a positive sign,” he added, noting the influx of Chinese and Hong Kong participants fostering a collaborative vibe.
Market Trends: Institutions vs. Retail, and the Risks Ahead
Shifting to market analysis, Lian highlighted the bullish sentiment in crypto, with Bitcoin surpassing previous highs. “Crypto has been bullish this year,” he said, joking about how investors now get “mad” if Bitcoin dips below $100,000, a far cry from the last cycle’s peak at $69,000 and subsequent drop to $20,000.
This optimism comes with caveats. Lian pointed out the shift from retail-driven markets to institutional dominance. “In the past, power lay with retail guys; now it’s institutions,” he explained. Figures like Michael Saylor of MicroStrategy and others hold massive sway. “If big companies like Meta Planet sell, the downstream effect is huge, they’re the foundation.” He advised monitoring fundraising efforts: “As long as Saylor can raise more money, the bull market continues.”
Retail investors face barriers. “How many retail guys will put $1 million into crypto?” Lian questioned. While institutions buy through ETFs or spot markets, retail participation remains limited, making the market “institution-only” in recent months. For mainstream adoption, he stressed the need for balance: “Institutions can be robotic, hit a threshold and goodbye. Retail often holds long-term, like a 401k.”
Lian also touched on altcoins, noting healthy cycles where profits from Ethereum sales fund new projects. He worried about cash-outs that sideline sellers permanently. “It’s hard to come back in if prices rise again.”
Eric Trump’s Presence and Hong Kong’s Crypto Ambitions
An intriguing highlight was Eric Trump’s attendance at the conference. Lian speculated on its implications, viewing it as a boost for global Bitcoin support. “Eric is here mainly to support Bitcoin globally,” he said. However, he noted a twist: reports from the South China Morning Post indicated that regulators pulled out from keynote speeches due to Trump’s presence. “I’m not sure what’s the agenda, but it should be aligned,” Lian remarked. Despite the uncertainty, whether political or otherwise, he believed the event should have proceeded as planned.
Lian emphasized Hong Kong’s role as a hub for digital assets. Right after the interview, he planned to attend another event hosted by Annum Capital, focusing on stablecoins, a hot topic in the region. “I even wrote a report with them about stablecoins,” he shared. These gatherings, often involving bankers in suits, reveal growing curiosity among traditional finance executives. “They want to know more,” Lian said, seeing it as a bullish sign. The challenge lies in execution: “How are they going to execute with their clients’ money? I hope to see more action than just a good lunch.”
Building a Sustainable Ecosystem: Collaboration Over Silos
Lian stressed the importance of unity in the crypto space. “Everybody is playing a silos game, maxis, cabals, working within small groups,” he observed. To sustain the ecosystem, the industry must focus on the bigger picture: attracting more funds and participants. “We need to bring more people in,” he urged, particularly from populous nations like China and India, where tech-savvy populations could drive growth.
He advocated for collaborative efforts, such as a digital asset association for media and stakeholders to share topics and journalism standards. “It’s all about working together,” Lian said. For miners, this means optimizing efficiency for energy, environment, and security. “Once mining becomes unsustainable, what happens to the network’s security?” he pondered. Echoing the adage that a rising tide lifts all boats, he noted that web3 remains small and requires collective support.
Predictions for 2025: Bullish Horizons
Wrapping up, Lian shared optimistic predictions for the remainder of 2025. “The next four months should bring a much better cycle,” he forecasted. Dips recover quickly due to institutional support, pushing Bitcoin toward $150,000 or higher. Ethereum could reach $6,000, based on charts, while BNB might surge dramatically due to controlled supply and burns. “BNB is going to go for a really big number,” he predicted.
Lian’s insights paint a picture of an industry at a pivotal moment, balancing innovation with sustainability. As governments, institutions, and communities align, the crypto frontier promises exciting developments. For those navigating this space, his advice is clear: stay informed, collaborate, and prepare for growth.
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Anndy Lian is an early blockchain adopter and experienced serial entrepreneur who is known for his work in the government sector. He is a best selling book author- “NFT: From Zero to Hero” and “Blockchain Revolution 2030”.

Currently, he is appointed as the Chief Digital Advisor at Mongolia Productivity Organization, championing national digitization. Prior to his current appointments, he was the Chairman of BigONE Exchange, a global top 30 ranked crypto spot exchange and was also the Advisory Board Member for Hyundai DAC, the blockchain arm of South Korea’s largest car manufacturer Hyundai Motor Group. Lian played a pivotal role as the Blockchain Advisor for Asian Productivity Organisation (APO), an intergovernmental organization committed to improving productivity in the Asia-Pacific region.

An avid supporter of incubating start-ups, Anndy has also been a private investor for the past eight years. With a growth investment mindset, Anndy strategically demonstrates this in the companies he chooses to be involved with. He believes that what he is doing through blockchain technology currently will revolutionise and redefine traditional businesses. He also believes that the blockchain industry has to be “redecentralised”.

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Interview with Anndy Lian- Discovering Singapore By Chance

Interview with Anndy Lian- Discovering Singapore By Chance

Tell us about yourself.
I’m Anndy Lian—a Singapore-born investor, author, and advisor at the intersection of technology, finance, and innovation. Over the years, I’ve worked closely with startups, governments, and global organizations on digital transformation, blockchain, and the future of Web3. I’ve served as Chairman of BigONE Exchange and advised on fintech strategies across Asia and beyond.

But beyond titles, I’m someone deeply curious about how technology reshapes lives. I believe complex ideas should be accessible to everyone—not locked behind jargon. That belief led me to write books that simplify the future: from Blockchain Revolution 2030 and NFT: From Zero to Hero, to my latest work, Discovering Singapore By Chance, co-authored with Jenny Zheng.

I’m also a public speaker, media contributor, and educator, passionate about empowering creators, entrepreneurs, and everyday people to understand and shape the digital world. Whether through writing, speaking, or advising, my mission is clear: to bridge the gap between innovation and understanding.

At heart, I’m a storyteller—using words, ideas, and action to make sense of change, one book, one conversation, one breakthrough at a time.

What inspired you to start writing, and how did you get started in the world of storytelling?
I started writing because I was frustrated—frustrated that powerful technologies like blockchain and NFTs were being discussed in ways that only experts seemed to understand. I saw people shutting down, switching off, because the language was too technical, too cold. I knew these innovations could change lives, but only if people could get them.

That sparked my journey into storytelling. I realized I didn’t need to be a journalist or a novelist to make a difference. I just needed to explain things clearly, honestly, and with heart.

It began with short articles and social media posts—breaking down blockchain concepts in simple terms. I wrote for the person who had no background in tech but wanted to learn. My goal wasn’t to impress, but to empower.

The response was immediate. People reached out saying, “Now I finally understand.” That feedback fueled me. I started speaking at events, and eventually, I co-authored my first book, Blockchain Revolution 2030, to reach even more readers.

From there, writing became a natural extension of my work and mission. With NFT: From Zero to Hero, I wanted to guide creators into the digital economy. And with Discovering Singapore By Chance, I used storytelling to explore identity, belonging, and the soul of a nation.

So what inspired me? A simple belief: knowledge should be shared, not hoarded. I got started not with a grand plan, but with a keyboard, a message, and a desire to make the complex feel human. And I haven’t stopped since.

What’s the most fun part of writing—plotting a twist, creating a quirky character, or something else entirely?
For Discovering Singapore By Chance, the most fun part of writing was capturing the small, human moments that reveal the soul of a place.

Since the book is a blend of personal discovery and cultural insight, the joy came not from plotting twists or inventing characters—but from reliving and sharing the quiet, unexpected moments that make Singapore feel alive: the hawker stall banter, the MRT conversations in three languages, the way tradition and innovation coexist on the same street.

It was especially rewarding to write from two perspectives—Jenny’s fresh, outsider curiosity and my own insider reflections—and see how they shaped each other. The “aha” moments weren’t in dramatic turns, but in realizations: how a simple act like queuing for food can reflect national values, or how urban planning quietly shapes daily life.

The most fun, honestly, was turning observations into stories that resonate—where a walk through a neighborhood becomes a window into identity, history, and belonging. In this book, the city itself is the main character, and uncovering its layers, one story at a time, was the greatest joy.

What’s the most unusual or quirky source of inspiration you’ve ever had for a story?
The most unusual source of inspiration for Discovering Singapore By Chance was a 20-cent packet of curry puffs from a hawker stall at 8 a.m.

One morning, I was sitting at a crowded coffee shop in Toa Payoh, eating a curry puff with my co-author Jenny. We were tired, slightly grumpy from the early hour, and just going through our notes. Then, an elderly uncle at the next table—who had been quietly observing us—leaned over and said, “You two write about Singapore? Then you must understand kiasu.”

That one word—kiasu, meaning fear of losing out—sparked a two-hour conversation about competition, survival, national mindset, and how a simple snack could reflect deeper cultural values. We recorded it (with his permission), and that impromptu chat became the foundation of a full chapter on Singapore’s psychology.

It wasn’t a conference, a policy paper, or a tech trend that inspired me—it was a random, warm-hearted local with a strong opinion and a love for curry puffs.

That moment reminded me: the best stories don’t come from grand events. They come from real life—over coffee, in hawker centres, in the middle of an unexpected conversation. For me, that’s where truth, humor, and insight truly meet.

What advice would you give to aspiring authors who are just starting their writing journey?
To aspiring authors just starting out, here’s my advice:

Start small, but start now. You don’t need a book deal, a big platform, or perfect conditions. Write one paragraph today. One page tomorrow. Momentum builds not from inspiration, but from action.

Write what you know—and what you’re curious about. Your unique perspective is your greatest strength. Whether it’s your career, your culture, or a technology you’re passionate about, your voice matters because it’s yours.

Don’t aim for perfect—aim for clear. Your first draft isn’t supposed to be flawless. It’s supposed to exist. Edit later. For now, get the ideas out. The magic happens in rewriting, not in waiting.

Use real life as your source. The best stories come from conversations, failures, observations, and questions. That moment on the MRT, a debate with a friend, a problem you solved—these are all seeds for powerful writing.

Share your work early. Post a short piece online. Read it to a friend. Get feedback. Writing is not just a solitary act—it’s a conversation. Let people respond before you’re “finished.”

Be consistent, not heroic. You don’t need to write 5,000 words in a day. Just 200, five days a week. Small steps lead to finished books.

And finally, finish something. So many writers begin but never complete. Push through doubt, silence your inner critic, and ship it—whether it’s a blog, an ebook, or your first manuscript.

Because the world doesn’t need more unpublished genius.
It needs your voice—clear, honest, and shared.

Write with purpose.
And keep going.


What role does research play in your writing process, especially when you’re exploring new genres or themes?
Research is the backbone of my writing—especially when exploring new technologies or cultural themes. I don’t write from opinion alone; I write from understanding.

When I worked on Blockchain Revolution 2030 or NFT: From Zero to Hero, research meant diving into technical whitepapers, studying real-world use cases, interviewing developers, and even testing platforms myself. I needed to know how things worked under the hood, not just the surface hype.

For Discovering Singapore By Chance, the research was different—it was human-centered. I walked through neighborhoods with fresh eyes, revisited history, spoke to community elders, and listened to expats and locals alike. Jenny and I collected stories, compared perspectives, and questioned assumptions. We didn’t just rely on data—we lived the moments.

Even for my upcoming book on Web4, I’m deep in research: studying AI behavior models, ambient computing trends, digital identity frameworks, and global policy shifts. I read academic papers, attend tech demos, and talk to engineers building the future.

But here’s my approach: I research not to overload the reader, but to simplify with confidence. My goal is never to show how much I know—but to make the complex feel clear and relatable.

So yes, research comes first. Then storytelling.
Because you can’t explain the future—unless you’ve first taken the time to understand it.

Can you share a favorite quote or line from one of your books that holds a special meaning to you?
One line from Discovering Singapore By Chance that holds deep meaning for me is:

“Singapore is not just a place; it’s a state of mind.”

This line captures the essence of what Jenny and I wanted to convey—not just the efficiency, cleanliness, or skyline, but the underlying mindset that makes Singapore unique: discipline balanced with ambition, diversity woven into unity, and a constant drive to reinvent despite size or odds.

To me, this quote reflects how a nation’s identity can transcend geography. It’s about resilience, pragmatism, and the quiet pride of building something lasting from almost nothing.

I return to this line often—because it’s not just about a country.
It’s about what people can achieve when they think ahead, work together, and believe in progress.
And that, to me, is timeless.

What is your favorite part of the writing process, and why?
My favorite part of the writing process is the moment an abstract idea becomes clear and real—when a complex thought finally clicks into a simple, powerful sentence.

It often happens during editing, not the first draft. I’ll go back to a messy paragraph—something I spoke into my phone or scribbled in a notebook—and suddenly, the right words fall into place. That’s when the magic happens: when something that felt confusing or overwhelming becomes understandable, even inspiring.

I love this part because I know that once I’ve made it clear to myself, I can make it clear to others. That single sentence can become a turning point in a chapter, a quote someone remembers, or the insight that helps a reader finally “get” blockchain, NFTs, or what Singapore truly stands for.

It’s not about style or flair. It’s about clarity with purpose. And when I achieve that, I feel like I’ve done my job—not just as a writer, but as a guide, helping others see the future a little more clearly than they did before.

How do you approach character development? Are there any real-life influences in your characters?
Since I write nonfiction, my “characters” are not invented—they are real people, including myself, my co-author, and the individuals we meet along the way. In Discovering Singapore By Chance, the development of these voices is intentional and deeply personal.

My own role in the book is not as a fictional character, but as an insider—someone born and raised in Singapore, shaped by its systems, culture, and unspoken rules. I reflect on my assumptions, biases, and emotional connections to the country, revealing a more vulnerable, thoughtful side of myself than people might expect from a tech and finance commentator.

Jenny Zheng, my co-author, serves as the curious outsider—her journey of discovering Singapore mirrors that of many global readers. Her observations, questions, and emotional responses are all authentic, drawn directly from her lived experience. Together, our dialogue becomes a kind of dual narrative—one rooted in belonging, the other in discovery.

Beyond us, the “characters” include everyday people we encountered: a hawker stall uncle with sharp opinions on national identity, a young artist blending heritage with digital tools, or a policymaker quietly shaping the city’s future. These voices are real, lightly anonymized for privacy, but their insights are preserved with care.

So my approach to “character development” is about truthful representation—not crafting personalities, but listening deeply, reflecting honestly, and showing how real experiences can illuminate larger truths. The most powerful stories, I’ve learned, don’t come from imagination alone—they come from paying attention.

What’s your favorite “oops” moment from writing—those happy accidents that turned into something wonderful?
One of my favorite “oops” moments happened while writing Discovering Singapore By Chance.

Jenny and I were working on a chapter about cultural identity, and I had written a serious, data-heavy section on Singapore’s multilingual policies. It was accurate—but dry. Lifeless. As I read it aloud during editing, even I was bored.

Frustrated, I vented in a voice note: “Honestly, the real language of Singapore isn’t English, Mandarin, Malay, or Tamil—it’s code-switching, sarcasm, and food.” I wasn’t planning to use it. I was just ranting.

But when Jenny heard the playback, she said, “That’s going in the book.”

We turned that offhand comment into a full section—“The Real Languages of Singapore”—where we explored how Singaporeans communicate not through official policy, but through humor, food metaphors, and seamless switching between dialects and tones depending on who we’re with. It became one of the most relatable, human chapters in the book.

That “oops” moment taught me something important: the best writing often comes from letting go of perfection and embracing honesty. If I hadn’t made a mistake in tone, gotten frustrated, and spoken from the heart, we would’ve missed one of the book’s most authentic insights.

Now, I welcome the glitches, the rants, the accidental lines. Because sometimes, the truth slips out when you’re not trying to sound smart—just real.

Have any of your characters ever “taken over” a scene and surprised you with where they went?
Since I write nonfiction, my characters aren’t fictional—they’re real people, including myself and my co-author Jenny Zheng. But yes, there were moments when someone’s words or actions shifted the entire direction of a scene in a way I never expected.

One powerful example was during an interview with a third-generation hawker in Geylang. We went in to talk about food heritage, but he surprised us by turning the conversation toward loneliness, legacy, and fear of failure. He shared how his son didn’t want to take over the stall—not because he disliked the work, but because “it’s invisible work. No one sees you, even when they’re eating your food.”

That raw honesty wasn’t in our plan. But his voice, his emotion, took over the moment. We rewrote the entire section around the idea of invisible labor—how Singapore runs on people who rarely get recognition. That scene ended up connecting to bigger themes: national identity, value, and what we choose to celebrate.

Even I surprised myself. In responding to him, I opened up about my own fears—of being forgotten, of building things that might not last. That vulnerability wasn’t scripted. It just happened.

So while no fictional character has “taken over” a scene, real people, speaking truthfully, absolutely have. And that’s the beauty of writing nonfiction: you show up to tell one story, but life hands you a deeper one. You just have to be quiet, listen, and let them lead.

 

Source: https://mybookplace.net/interview-with-anndy-lian/

Anndy Lian is an early blockchain adopter and experienced serial entrepreneur who is known for his work in the government sector. He is a best selling book author- “NFT: From Zero to Hero” and “Blockchain Revolution 2030”.

Currently, he is appointed as the Chief Digital Advisor at Mongolia Productivity Organization, championing national digitization. Prior to his current appointments, he was the Chairman of BigONE Exchange, a global top 30 ranked crypto spot exchange and was also the Advisory Board Member for Hyundai DAC, the blockchain arm of South Korea’s largest car manufacturer Hyundai Motor Group. Lian played a pivotal role as the Blockchain Advisor for Asian Productivity Organisation (APO), an intergovernmental organization committed to improving productivity in the Asia-Pacific region.

An avid supporter of incubating start-ups, Anndy has also been a private investor for the past eight years. With a growth investment mindset, Anndy strategically demonstrates this in the companies he chooses to be involved with. He believes that what he is doing through blockchain technology currently will revolutionise and redefine traditional businesses. He also believes that the blockchain industry has to be “redecentralised”.

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Crypto Market Pulse: Insights from Manoj Dharra and Anndy Lian on Current Trends and Institutional Adoption

Crypto Market Pulse: Insights from Manoj Dharra and Anndy Lian on Current Trends and Institutional Adoption

The cryptocurrency market is buzzing with energy once again, teetering on the edge of all-time highs and drawing in a wave of institutional interest that’s impossible to ignore. In a recent episode of Crypto Market Pulse on 3.0 TV, host Manoj Dharra welcomed blockchain strategist, author, and market expert Anndy Lian for a lively discussion about what’s driving this surge and where the market might be headed. Their conversation was a goldmine of insights, blending sharp analysis with a genuine enthusiasm for the evolving world of digital assets. With crypto’s spotlight growing brighter by the day in 2025, let’s dive into the key takeaways from their exchange and explore what it all means for investors, innovators, and the future of finance.

A Market on the Brink

Right out of the gate, Manoj Dharra set the tone with a question that’s on everyone’s mind: how’s the market performing as it flirts with those tantalizing all-time highs? You could hear the excitement in his voice as he greeted Lian, a familiar face on the show, and it was clear this wasn’t going to be a dry rundown of numbers. Anndy Lian didn’t hesitate to jump in, framing the market’s current state as more than just a hot streak. “Good to see you again, my friend,” he said warmly, before diving into his take. “What we’re witnessing isn’t just a fleeting spike—it’s a sign of a market that’s growing up.”

Lian painted a picture of a crypto landscape that’s shedding its wild-west reputation. Bitcoin and Ethereum, the heavyweights of the space, are leading the charge, testing their previous peaks with a confidence that feels different this time around. He pointed to a mix of forces at play: broader adoption, smarter technology, and a global economy that’s pushing people to rethink traditional investments. “Crypto isn’t just for the risk-takers anymore,” Lian remarked. “It’s becoming a serious contender in the financial world, and the numbers are starting to reflect that.”

Dharra nodded along, clearly on the same wavelength. He brought up how the market’s ups and downs over the years have built a resilience that’s now paying off. “We’ve seen the crashes, the hype cycles,” he said, “but this feels like a turning point.” Together, they highlighted how decentralized finance (DeFi) and non-fungible tokens (NFTs) are adding fuel to the fire, pulling in new users and shaking up old systems. But it wasn’t all rosy—Lian was quick to add a note of caution. “Innovation’s moving fast, and that’s thrilling, but we’ve got to keep an eye on the risks, too,” he said, hinting at the regulatory and security hurdles still lurking in the shadows.

The Institutional Invasion

If there’s one thing that stood out in their chat, it’s how much the game has changed with big institutions stepping into the ring. Lian didn’t mince words: “Institutional adoption is the engine behind this rally.” It’s a bold claim, but he backed it up with a clear-eyed look at what’s happening. Banks, hedge funds, even governments—they’re not just dipping their toes in anymore; they’re diving headfirst. “When you see these players getting involved, it’s a signal,” he explained. “Crypto’s not a fringe experiment—it’s here to stay.”

Dharra leaned into this point, asking what’s pulling these heavy hitters in. Lian had a ready answer: “It’s about protection and opportunity.” With inflation creeping up worldwide and stock markets looking shakier than usual, institutions are hunting for ways to shield their wealth. Crypto, with its knack for holding strong when other assets wobble, is starting to look like a smart bet. “Think of it as the new gold,” Lian said, a grin in his voice. “Except it’s digital, decentralized, and a whole lot more versatile.”

But it’s not just about hedging bets. The infrastructure’s caught up, too. Lian pointed to the rise of regulated exchanges, secure custody options, and even crypto exchange-traded funds (ETFs) that have smoothed the path for institutions. “A few years ago, the idea of a bank holding Bitcoin sounded crazy,” he noted. “Now, it’s just business.” Dharra chimed in with a nod to how this shift is boosting confidence across the board. “It’s not just the big players—it’s trickling down to everyday investors, too,” he said.

Still, they didn’t shy away from the flip side. More institutions mean bigger stakes, and that can stir up trouble. Lian raised an eyebrow at the risk of market swings getting wilder as these giants throw their weight around. “It’s a double-edged sword,” he admitted. “We want the growth, but we’ve got to keep it fair.” Dharra agreed, stressing the need for transparency as the market scales up. It was a sobering reminder that even in a boom, vigilance is key.

Regulation: Friend or Foe?

No crypto conversation is complete without tackling regulation, and Dharra steered them right into it. “So, what’s the deal with all these rules popping up?” he asked. Lian chuckled, calling it “the million-dollar question.” He didn’t dodge the complexity: “Regulation can make or break this space. Done right, it’s a lifeline—done wrong, it’s a chokehold.”

They dug into the global patchwork of approaches. Some places, like the U.S., are playing it tough, piling on rules to keep things in check. Others, like Singapore, are rolling out the red carpet for crypto innovators. “It’s a mixed bag,” Lian said. “You’ve got to be nimble to keep up.” He argued that clear rules could bring more players in by cutting down on uncertainty, but overreach could scare off the pioneers who built this space.

Dharra jumped in with an optimistic take. “I’m seeing more regulators talking with the industry, not just at it,” he said. “That’s progress.” Lian agreed, suggesting that 2025 could be a tipping point where governments start seeing blockchain as more than just a buzzword. “They’re waking up to the potential,” he said. “It’s not just about control—it’s about opportunity.”

Beyond the Coins: Blockchain’s Big Picture

Lian couldn’t resist zooming out to talk blockchain beyond crypto, and it was one of the chat’s highlights. “This tech’s bigger than Bitcoin,” he insisted, his passion cutting through. He rattled off examples—supply chains tracking goods from farm to table, healthcare systems securing patient data, even governments using it to cut corruption. “It’s about trust,” he said. “Blockchain gives us a way to prove things without middlemen.”

Dharra latched onto the supply chain angle, marveling at how it could stop fraud in its tracks. Lian nodded, mentioning luxury brands already using it to prove authenticity. “Imagine buying a watch and knowing, without a doubt, it’s the real deal,” he said. They also touched on digital identity—how blockchain could let people control their data in a world full of hacks. “That’s empowerment,” Lian added. “It’s not just tech—it’s a shift in power.”

What’s Next?

As they wrapped up, Dharra pushed Lian for a peek into the future. “Where’s this all going?” he asked. Lian didn’t hesitate. “Up,” he said with a laugh, then got serious. “We’ll see bumps—volatility’s not going anywhere—but the trajectory’s clear. Crypto and blockchain are weaving into the fabric of how we live.” He stressed education as the next big hurdle. “People need to get it—really get it—before we see the full potential.”

Dharra closed with a nod to the moment. “This isn’t hype—it’s history,” he said. Their chat left no doubt: 2025’s crypto boom, fueled by institutional muscle and blockchain’s reach, is just the start. From market trends to real-world impact, Manoj Dharra and Anndy Lian made it clear—the future’s bright, and it’s already here.

 

Anndy Lian is an early blockchain adopter and experienced serial entrepreneur who is known for his work in the government sector. He is a best selling book author- “NFT: From Zero to Hero” and “Blockchain Revolution 2030”.

Currently, he is appointed as the Chief Digital Advisor at Mongolia Productivity Organization, championing national digitization. Prior to his current appointments, he was the Chairman of BigONE Exchange, a global top 30 ranked crypto spot exchange and was also the Advisory Board Member for Hyundai DAC, the blockchain arm of South Korea’s largest car manufacturer Hyundai Motor Group. Lian played a pivotal role as the Blockchain Advisor for Asian Productivity Organisation (APO), an intergovernmental organization committed to improving productivity in the Asia-Pacific region.

An avid supporter of incubating start-ups, Anndy has also been a private investor for the past eight years. With a growth investment mindset, Anndy strategically demonstrates this in the companies he chooses to be involved with. He believes that what he is doing through blockchain technology currently will revolutionise and redefine traditional businesses. He also believes that the blockchain industry has to be “redecentralised”.

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